As discussed in class, identify what you think the definition of Self-Reliance and Individualism meant in the 19th century and identify what you think these two things mean today. Make sure to use examples to support your argument. You may link to an article that supports your thinking. Make sure to respond to 2 posts on the blog.
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Mr. Herms
12/3/2014 01:49:14 am
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Mr. Herms
12/3/2014 01:50:02 am
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Mr. Herms
12/3/2014 02:42:41 am
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Tony C.
12/4/2014 03:54:10 am
Ah, the 1800's; they truly were a time when nobody had anyone better to care about then themselves. A good instance/example out of this context is the issue of segregation in the later periods of the 19th century. After the Civil War, since there were no more slaves, and anti-abolitionists got a slap in the face when the colored could vote, a group of southern democrats got together to establish a series of segregating policies we know of as Jim Crow. What this has in context of the matter is this; Those democrats cared for no one but their own race, and in an ironic way they followed their ancestors' ways of racial tension to separate themselves from a crowd. Was it really necessary to do this, though? Especially with today's thinking in mind, no one in their sane and sorry mind would ever rely solely on the future of their own people, and not rely on others because of their color. Now I'm not trying to preach history here, but after about an hour of thought, this all sort of makes sense in the weirdest way that our self-reliance and sense of individualism got to the point where, even after the Civil War, we, for a time, viewed the colored folk as less than human. This is just one of the many cons of taking these two subjects aforementioned too far, and eventually, we see these man-made, albeit invisible, empires crumble in ruin when the majority's voice is stronger after a long and seemingly eternal silence.
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Brandon Gann
12/4/2014 06:35:27 am
I agree with what you think about individualism in the nineteenth century. I think that you were spot on when you said, "...empires crumble in ruin when the majority's voice is stronger..." When ideas and beliefs spread, they become the norm and the accepted, while the previous belief is looked at in the same light as inferior and unimportant. One example being a handful of events scattered through history that were believed to be true at one point, but later proven inaccurate and/or false that slowly caused everyone's view to change.
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Jason Kudwa
12/4/2014 07:36:19 am
Couldn't agree with you more. The majority of our nation, and the world itself will always overpower the ideas of someone with a different view of them. Being an outcast in today's society may lead to you looking like the wrong person. Someone who is agreeing with the majority will blend in with the rest of the crowd.
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Raquel Jackson
12/4/2014 10:06:28 pm
I couldn't agree more with your statement to self- reliance and individualism. I also like the fact that you brought the slavery and Civil War into the conversation. These two ideas have many different sides and perspectives they can be seen from, but the way you worded everything should help people see the way we see things.
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12/10/2014 08:02:33 am
i really agree with my classmates on individualism and self-realliance individualism to me is being able to go off and do your on specific thing. You don't need others help to get there. Individualism should be setting goals of some sort and being able to get there by yourself with no help.
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Brandon Gann
12/4/2014 05:58:46 am
Self-Reliance and Individualism in the 19th century Vs. Self-Reliance and Individualism Now
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Jessica Bozick
12/4/2014 06:47:39 am
I agree with this one hundred percent. I feel like you stated your views about the topic very well. I like how you included about slavery because I feel that is very true about it.
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Jason Kudwa
12/4/2014 07:08:17 am
You make a very good statement on how these terms are still in use to this very day, as well as in the same meaning. Allowing one's self to step away from societies thought of what is right can be applied to many problems we face today, as well as to what our ancestors had to deal with.
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Kylie Cutlip
12/4/2014 07:49:30 am
To be honest, you couldn't said it any better. Everything you have written is spot on and to the point. The amount of heart you put into this puts mine to shame. I applaud you sir, excellent work.
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Nicole Killinger
12/4/2014 08:09:40 am
I feel you wrote this very well. I agree with everything you wrote here. You had every topic and I understood what you were trying to say.
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Lauren Barczak
12/4/2014 08:27:30 am
I agree with what you have written. I liked how you said people are getting married later in their life because they can live on their own. Also I liked how today individualism is so important now because we can express ourselves.
Alyssa Ziemianski
12/4/2014 09:40:47 am
I agree with your analogy about how people in the 19th century were very reserved when it came to stating their opinions. Also, I agree with your views on the topic of providing for not only yourself, but also your family. The examples that you stated about supplying the necessities for yourself in the 19th century compared to the 21st century are true. Self reliance was just as important in the past as it is today; it was just demonstrated in a different way.
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Kanai Dozier
12/4/2014 10:12:33 am
I agree with you because self reliance and individualism were easier ways of life to express in the nineteenth century because now, people are too scared to display how they really feel
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jade harrison
12/4/2014 10:32:22 am
I agree 100% with this. When you said people express themselves in todays society, and how back then they would have to keep to themselves. It could not be any more true. People express themselves in so many ways in todays world.
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Dylan Garthe
12/4/2014 11:04:51 am
This may be a longer response than the others, but it is one of the best. He uses a perspective that makes the two definitions sound like one branched from another. He states the topic and his views clearly. I can relate to what he wrote because it is not biased or an opinion. It is an informative response.
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zeta barrie
12/4/2014 11:25:03 am
i commend you for the amount of thought and effort you put into this topic, and everything you stated i completely agree with. A lot of the points you brought up like slavery, i was thinking of as well because no one wanted to stand up and say it was wrong because of all the judgement they would have had. and its the same way now with people being afraid to speak up and defend what they believe in because they are simply not individualists.
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Tony
12/4/2014 07:16:52 pm
Very well written! I especially like how you state your view on self-reliance remaining unchanged after so much time.
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Raquel Jackson
12/4/2014 10:08:55 pm
Great job talking about self-reliance and individualism then and now. You made some very great and understandable points. Bringing slavery into the topic was perfect because it shows how well we understand these kinds of topics. I agree with you that it can be viewed differently but they way it was said in this paragraph was by far the best.
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Jazmine Weiss
12/4/2014 10:54:01 pm
I feel like you did a very good job on proving your point. i liked the point about our food sources.
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Jaylon
12/8/2014 11:09:10 pm
I agree with Brandon. Basically this piece of writing tells us to be self reliant and independent. I believe that it has a good amount of life advise. you cant read this and not get something out of it. It really opens your eyes to other people as well. it tells you what you would see. and I have seen most of these things in my everyday life. its amazing what this writing tells me.
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Jessica Bozick
12/4/2014 06:44:22 am
Self reliance I believe is the reliance only on your self in many different ways. It could mean simply for getting food for yourself or for getting help with things. Individualism is kinda the same thing such as you are your own person and do your own thing. I believe in the 1970 people were more afraid to show individualism because others would shun them or look down on them. In the 1970s there was a lot of racism but most people did not state their views on it because if they were against it they would be looked down upon. In the 1970s people were people had to rely on each other more so they weren't as self reliant. Today people state their views more openly. People are more excepting towards others. Such as peoples views on the Michael Brown case. People state their views about it willingly not caring what others think. Now people are way more accepting of others views towards thing such as gay rights and more. Also people are way more self reliant now because they get jobs way earlier and don't rely on others as much.
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Liz Offer
12/4/2014 07:18:14 am
I feel the same way about what you said. It is very true that people are more self reliant now.
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Jonathan Harris
12/4/2014 09:25:13 am
I think that people are more self reliant too but I don't think that people are still as much of afraid to show individualism as they were in the 70's since everybody is still shunning each other.
Esmeralda celaj
12/4/2014 08:09:17 am
I agree with you because people were afraid to show individulasim in the 19th century century. You had some great ideas.
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Tara Stewart
12/4/2014 09:58:38 am
Good job on writing examples on being self reliant. The Michael Brown case and views on gay rights were good examples.
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Brandon Manardo
12/4/2014 10:35:22 am
I strongly agree with your argument and position on the topic. I liked how you said how individualism is still the same meaning as it was in the past even though there were moments in the past when individualism was taken away.
jade harrison
12/4/2014 10:38:10 am
I like how you wrote this. very easy to understand and you got to the point without repeating the same thing over and over again. i agree when you say that people are becoming more self reliant in todays society, but they are also expressing individualism by going out and being an independent individual to get a job and no longer relying on others for money.
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zeta barrie
12/4/2014 11:28:56 am
I agree whole heartily, the idea of racism was never contradicted because groups like the KKK scared people, if you weren't "100% american" you were frowned upon and no one wants to feel bad about themselves, so they chose to agree instead of being individual.
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Kara Gerniski
12/7/2014 02:42:49 am
I strongly agree with what you wrote. I like how you talked about how there was a lot of racism in the 1970s but people wouldn't speak out about it because of the fear of being looked down on. I also agree that people are more self reliant today then they were back in the ninetineth century.
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Jason Kudwa
12/4/2014 07:04:04 am
The term of self-reliance and individualism can be described as a social theory favoring freedom of action for individuals over collective or state control. This is the dictionary terminology of this word, and in the twenty first century, it can be stated onto many things. People nowadays believe staying in the crowd, or trying to fit in is frowned upon, and to be just be yourself. The majority of the population believes that having more power as a voter, and an individual is a good thing. With less control from the government, it can have a positive outlook for the country itself. It is primarily a conservative look as well. Being self-reliant is a good thing for most of the time. If you trust yourself more than others, and can make difficult decisions with no one else to help, you are succeeding. This terminology was not very different in the 19th century. The majority still wanted change for the greater good of an individual and others around him. It was an idea of getting out of the comfort zone when it came to touchy subjects. The majority of the north would agree abolishing slavery was the right choice, and giving everyone the right to vote without worrying about their skin color nor gender. Most would agree that this was the right choice in the north. The south had an opposite view. Abolishing slavery would impact their life, causing an enormous amount of money lost to their families, and the businesses they ran. It would be frowned upon here for not agreeing with another southerner. The split of this view started the Civil War. Whether it is the 21st century buying resources for yourself at the market, or growing your own food in the 19th century, self-reliance still has the same terminology. Individualism still has the same meaning in these times, just with different subjects. History does not always repeats itself, but it does rhyme.
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Justin Lenard
12/4/2014 09:46:11 am
I agree with what you have stated and you did a good job on the topic, nice work.
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Brandon Manardo
12/4/2014 10:08:02 am
very well said on your argument I 100% agree with what you said about how people didn't want to express themselves about touchy issues, but they came together for the better good to end slavery creating more Individualism
Tony
12/4/2014 07:19:28 pm
Very creative tone on this post, and for that I completly agree with it. The pros and cons both blend in perfectly to make this post seem incredibly proffessioned in terms of your personal view.
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liz offer
12/4/2014 07:16:07 am
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Kylie Cutlip
12/4/2014 07:43:38 am
Ah! A very valid point indeed. I never really thought about it but it seems that people are more self reliant then I gave them credit for. You are right, people are living on their own much longer then they used to as well as being more open to moving for a job opportunity. Very well said.
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Abby W.
12/4/2014 07:56:05 am
You made a good point on how individuals can be self reliant today. It is so true how people with medical conditions have it easier because they have received better care and technology rather than the way it used to be. I liked how you incorporated your own situation into this!
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Jonathan Harris
12/4/2014 09:27:59 am
I so agree with you, I totally forgot about that marriage thing! However I don't think that just because there are more efficient medicines out there now, means your self reliant.
Nicole Killinger
12/4/2014 08:12:35 am
I really like what you wrote, it helped me understand about self-reliance and individualism and a whole other way. I feel like I know a lot more about this now after reading what you wrote.
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Billy
12/4/2014 08:14:15 am
Alright, just for your information the 19th century was years between 1800 and1899, not 1970. 1970 is the 20th century. Ight peace.
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David Goralczyk
12/4/2014 08:54:28 am
It makes a lot of sense that people are a lot more self- reliant now a days because you are right elderly people do not need as much physical help and assistance now that we have "Life-Alert, Hoover Round, etc."
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jessica bozick
12/4/2014 09:19:28 am
You make some really good point with this. I never would have though of it like that until you put it in this perspective. I feel you did a great job with this and your points were really good
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Jazmine Weiss
12/4/2014 10:57:17 pm
I think what you said about our advances made a very good point to how it's easier now. Marriage is a big part of being self reliant. Having a spouse or even just a family member can help a lot.
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Kylie Cutlip
12/4/2014 07:35:15 am
Self reliance and individualism are two sides of the same coin. Both deal with self independence but in different ways. Self reliance is being able to provide for one's self without any assistance from others, whether it be a close friend/family member or a government official. Individualism deals with self freedom and control. It is the aspect that makes one stride to be different and unique, despite the consequences. However, focus on these two aspects have switched focus over the years. If one were to travel back two or more hundred years in the past, they would discover that people focused more on self reliance than individualism. This was because they had to be. Food and other resources were scarce back then, forcing people to rely on themselves for survival. No one was very charitable back then, and even if they were, neighbor could be miles apart. Individual interests were less important for a number of reasons. For one, in the past, people resided in small groups people, with outsiders being seldom at best. When a person or a group of people all live in the same environment, they all form a similar opinion and become rather closed minded. A good example of this would be division of the North and South during the civil. Many southerners had grown up with slavery as a major part of their lives and truly believed that they were above them just by the color of their skin. When "those no good Yankees" proposed the idea of abolishing slavery, the South became outraged. It was North against South, freedom against slavery, but even then this statement isn't quite true. There were many people in the South who were against slavery and probably quite a few northerners who sided with the south, but kept their mouth's shut I order to avoid prosecution from their fellow neighbors. Today, self reliance and individualism have flipped flopped. More in more people have to rely on their families longer until they find a job. Individualism is on they rise because people are more socially connected than ever before, resulting in a growing open minded attitude and letting people say what they truly feel. With technology and social media on the raise, I feel this trend will continue to raise.
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Abby W.
12/4/2014 08:05:45 am
I agree with you about self reliance was more predominant back then vs how it is today. I really like how you incorporated the slavery issue with the North vs the South into your explanation. I think you did a great explanation of self reliance and individualism and how you included examples from the past.
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Brandon Gann
12/4/2014 08:14:48 am
Great job, I strongly agree with your post/opinion. I feel that you were "on point" about how in the nineteenth century, people relied upon themselves to provide food for not only themselves, but the rest of their family. Also, how people's individualism was hidden around the time of the Civil War due to different views on slavery and abolition.
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David Goralczyk
12/4/2014 08:56:12 am
It seems like you really put time into this thought thinking about the true meaning of self reliance, I definitely agree with your idea of self reliance in this post.
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Alyssa Ziemianski
12/4/2014 09:58:35 am
I agree with your comment that self reliance and individualism go hand in hand. In the 19th century many people started things much earlier than they do today, such as working and marriage, therefore having to be self reliant. I agree with your statement that more people have to rely on their families longer, especially with the costs of things today. Lastly, I believe that you are right when you say that self reliance and individualism have been flipped flopped because in today’s society people are not afraid to be themselves and state their opinions, even if others don’t agree.
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Tara Stewart
12/4/2014 10:02:03 am
Good definitions of Self Reliance and Individualism. I agree that it has flipped flopped more people are relying on their families until they find a job that can support them.
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Daevon Morgan
12/4/2014 10:13:45 am
I agree with with you one hundred percent with what you think self reliance and individualism means. It couldn't have been said any better. Individualism is definitely about control , that's all anyone feels when being associated with individualism. Although I do believe that both can easily be tied into each other depending on the perspective in which you perceive them in.
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Abby W.
12/4/2014 07:49:49 am
Self reliance in today's society is very similar, but different, to self reliance in the 19th century. Self reliance, by definition, is the reliance on one's own powers and resources rather than those of others. Individualism and self reliance tie into one another because they form a conclusion of relying on one's own self and being unique. In the 19th century, people were not worrying about who had the newest iPhone or the newest pair of Jordans, but were all pretty much forced to do their hair a certain way, dress a certain way, and act a certain way, because that is what they were used to and there was not a variety of options. Back in the 19th century, people did not have the technologies like we do today. People were forced to do more things by hand, walk to more places, and some even had to fight to defend themselves and their families. In today's society, many individuals have up to date technologies that allow them to get things done faster and more efficiently. People are forced into wanting to be like everyone else, because of fear and other reasons, which does not show individualism and self reliance. There are more choices made by one's self today than there were back then. People move out at 18 years old today, pay their own bills, and supply themselves with gas, food, and clothes rather than back in the 19th century when individuals lived with their families until they were old and died, working on their farms or getting their food from other farmers or local farmers markets and supporting their whole family. In general, people were more self reliant back then rather than we are now because they relied on themselves to make it through things when we now have great technologies and a huge population that can help one with any problems.
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Esmeralda Celaj
12/4/2014 08:24:13 am
I agree with you because there are more choices today than there were back then. You had some nice ideas. Great Job!
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Kara Gerniski
12/7/2014 02:50:02 am
I agree our technology is way more advance then it was back in the ninetineth century. I believe people are forced into wanting to be like others too because they afraid of what others may think of them and that they won't fit in. Also, yes people are more self reliant today and many can survive on their own without the help of others such as parents or the help of the government.
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Esmeralda celaj
12/4/2014 08:04:50 am
The definition of self-reliance online is " reliance on oneself or one's own powers, resources, or it means independence(dictionary.com). I think that's true because while some people rely on others for help they just learn to go through life and other things on there own, to truly be successful. For example some students want to do their homework alone, they don't want help from others. Individualism is basically the same thing, being independent and doing things by yourself. People in the 19th century were afraid to show individualism because they thought other people would be mean to them. People were very racist in the 19th century, and now people are not that racist. People are more self reliant now then in the 19th century.
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Nicole Kiillinger
12/4/2014 08:07:46 am
I feel that self-reliance is very important. This is when you do what is best for you, not what other people think. You know yourself better than anyone else does, therefore you know what's best for you no one else knows except for you. In the 19 century I feel it was easier to be self-reliant, not as much people judge you as they do today. Nowadays people would judge you, bully you,and say hurtful things if you tried to be yourself. I know that is a very scary thing but it's what is best, to just all be what we feel is the best thing for us. I believe that since the 19 century we have begun to be a more self-reliant. Hopefully in the future we will continue to have more self-reliance. Individualism is also like self-reliance, it involves standing up for yourself and being your own person. Like self-reliance, individualism is also very important and without it we would all act and be like one another. I think that even the little things such as doing your homework by yourself, feeding yourself, and even making sure you get enough sleep for the next day, are all still important. Self-reliance and individualism are both very important and we need to all try to for fillet ready to be ourselves and do things on her own and do what we feel is right and stand up for ourselves. I believe all make us better people in the long run, and we should all try to be more self-reliant and be our own individual person.
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Lauren Barczal
12/4/2014 08:21:12 am
I like how you described how people don't stand up for themselves and described that they should. I also liked how you said be yourself and everything will fall into place.
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liz offer
12/4/2014 09:25:18 am
I agree with this very much and i liked how you said that you should do what is best for you and not for other people. Also, i liked how you said we have to stand up for our selfs.
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Brandon Manardo
12/4/2014 08:51:30 am
Self Reliance and indivisualusm can be looked at as the same idea. Both of these concepts can be defined as the ability to live and prosper on your own without the outside of others, but also to be able to form your own opinions and beliefs. If you look at individualism and self relience now and in the past there isnt much difference between the two. Looking back to the past when the United States was divided there was the major issue of segregation. Dividing the nation caused people to choose a side wether to be for slavery or against, but this caused people to keep coments to themselves and just follow the crowd fearing that they would be hated or shunned for speaking against the other cause. This sparked a rise in individualism because people wanted to make a change for the better good by abolishing slavery. Slavery was finally abolished allowing every US citizen there basic rights and freedoms. Looking at self Reliance and individualism in modern society still has the same meaning it did in the past. In todays society following the crowd and not expressing yourself is looked down apon or seems odd.Today in modern society everyone is given the opportunity to work on their own to provide for themselves and for their family, to speek out and vote on cetian subjects, and freedom to their basic and individual right. Wether you look at it in the past, present, or future, everyone will continue to provide, and express themselves how ever they want.
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Cody Wallace
12/4/2014 09:54:48 am
I like how you compared individualism to the major issues of segregation that occured in the United States. I also enjoy how you compared many of your thoughts to issues that occurred in the United States such as segregation and the rights that the american citizen is given.
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Jusitn Lenard
12/4/2014 10:47:31 am
Very well said, you did a great job supporting your argument nice work!
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Zac Perry
12/4/2014 11:12:20 am
I agree with you completely. Back in the 19th century, if someone was against slavery, they were afraid to speak out and say something in fear of conflict. Today people are afraid to talk about touchy subjects in fear of confrontation. You worded this very well.
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David Goralczyk
12/4/2014 09:03:15 am
The 19th century was not always a time of self reliance. In that century there were people that would have to buy food, crops, and supplies from other people that actually owned farms miles away from where these "city people" were living. On the other hand it goes the same that basically when the homestead act was passed, it made people really want to head out to the west and start new lives as farmers. This was also an era of immigration where the people that came from Europe and Asia were very self dependent because they had no choice but to live the way that others did otherwise they were discriminated, but they had to start new business and such just to be able to feed their families. Today, self reliance can mean a young child being allowed to stay home alone for an hour or two and being able to fend for themselves if something happens. On the other hand it can mean, a young adult starting their life in college and starting a family where they don't get help from anyone like their parents to pay for clothes, food, and bills. Overall the way that self reliance is interpreted is what you think of it, it is a personal opinion.
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Alyssa Ziemianski
12/4/2014 09:20:26 am
Self reliance and individualism are two terms that go hand in hand. While self reliance is the nature of being independent, individualism is the ability to hold your own character. If one is able to have these qualities in today’s society, they will prosper more than those who do not display the motivation to be extraordinary. In today’s society, people are encouraged to standout and be themselves. They have the confidence to state their opinions and don’t have to worry about being harmed by people of higher status that do not share their beliefs. Meanwhile, the views in the 19th century were substantially different. During this time period, many people were judged on their religious views, political standpoint, and even their social class. In the 19th century many people of different faiths would use violence to harass and persecute others for their religious beliefs. Also, the political standpoint of slavery was that blacks were not only a secondhand race, but they also did not have any rights. Lastly, the social classes were very limited in the 1800’s; you were either a farmer or a businessman. The businessmen during this time were thought to be superior to the farmers and often looked down on them. In conclusion, the 21st century in comparison to the 19th century has drastically changed.
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Lauren Barczak
12/4/2014 09:22:00 am
Present day is not like it used to be in the 19th century. Self-reliance and individualism is an example of different views during these time periods. In present day self-reliance and individualism means believing in one's self and standing up for what one believes. The definition of self-reliance is relying on one’s own power or resources rather than those of others. In today’s society, individuals would rather work by themselves than as a team. In some ways we are so individualized that we cannot see past our own problems or job. When problems arise and help is needed we do not know how to ask. People are too proud to admit they need help and no solution is found. Back in the 19th century self-reliance and individualism meant the power of enriching an entire community through diversity. Lincoln raised the topic of African Americans being equal to whites. With the attention shifted to equality African Americans teamed up to support Lincoln's decision and fight for what they believe is right. In the 19th century not only were they able to be self-reliant and have individuality; but also recognize when help is needed. In today’s society we have forgotten how to be a team.
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Jonathan Harris
12/4/2014 09:23:18 am
First of all, self-reliance is being able to financially support yourself without the influence or help of other people. Keep in mind that during the 18th century there was no such thing as self-reliance. In order to survive, citizens had to gather together to complete various tasks, such as farming for example. One farmer alone could not produce enough food for them to eat well and/or make a living by selling their crop. In our modern world, working a ” nine to five” job that pays for your own food, shelter, and clothing, makes you a self-reliant person. Also self-reliance, I believe, is only an appropriate term for the 20th and 21st century. Secondly, I think that the idea of “individualism” in the United States is just another lie that society tells itself. See, society still doesn’t allow individuals to be happy with who they really are and it seems that society tries to make everyone the same from the inside out. People who express themselves by getting tattoos and body piercings are treated as rebels and looked upon as “Hell raisers”. Americans who enjoy a slower lifestyle are body shamed and are treated as scum even though they chose and even love the lifestyle that they live. Sexism, Racism, and Homophobia are all things that cause innocent human beings to no longer want to be who they really are and makes them feel like they are a waste in space when in actuality they deserve the same treatment as the Caucasian male receives. While people lose their religious morals, individualism in America grows… but it’s really society that is not allowing individualism to truly prosper.
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Billy
12/4/2014 09:26:19 am
19th century
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Kanai Dozier
12/4/2014 09:38:41 am
I never looked at it the way that you explained it but the way you did made me agree, fully, because the examples you used support your ideas and make a lot of sense.
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Cody Wallace
12/4/2014 10:01:46 am
I like how you compared many of the examples to todays society and you were clear on most of your thoughts.
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Kanai Dozier
12/4/2014 09:31:38 am
Self reliance in the nineteenth century was mainly people thinking for themselves and getting the resources that they needed on their own and just for them. Self reliance today means that people provide for themselves without government assistance because that's the idea of living that they like. Self reliance has changed from what it was in the nineteenth century because now, to be self reliant, you actually need government interference somewhere, when then, it was not necessary. In the nineteenth century, people could actively support themselves, as an individual, easier because government wasn't as strict. Individualism in the nineteenth century meant every man for himself, with their own thoughts. It meant not being influenced or affected by society or another person because being an individual gave you time to keep to yourself and think, more intellectually. The idea of individualism has been tainted, harshly. Today, being an individual is the same as being apart of a group because, usually, the person aspires to be like the most popularly liked. Also, today, being different means standing alone. Individualism is the thought of conforming to the most common idea of being an "individual" because everyone wants to be it, so it's all the same. There are few people today who actually are complete individuals and are proud.
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Cody Wallace
12/4/2014 09:49:15 am
Self-reliance is a way of life when one is reliant on one's own capabilities, judgment, and resources. When someone is self-reliant they are completely independent. Self-reliance is more of an idea that we strive to reach, but may be just outside our grasp. In today’s age the growing trend in Americas society consists of “what’s hot and what’s not”, is having a huge impact on young children’s self-concept and self-esteem. Self-reliance is about the attitude and idea you have toward yourself. Television, magazines, and the Internet make people have a lower self-esteem because they feel they are not as “good” as the characters in a T.V. episode or movie. Therefore people should not judge you or change the way you think about self-reliance. You’re doing the best for yourself, not for anybody else. In the 19th century, it was much easier for people to have self-reliance, because people did not judge you as much and there weren’t any huge influences as well, and everybody else was too struggling with their own issues, therefore there wasn’t any point of judging each other. I believe an individualist is someone with more personality and character, or someone who is not easily intimidated by social pressure, and someone with a personal opinion. I also think individualism drives people to withdraw into a small, world consisting of their family and a few friends, leaving the rest of society by itself. Individualism in the 19th century is very similar to self-reliance, standing up for yourself and being yourself too.
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Brooklynn Schmanski
12/4/2014 11:27:07 am
I agree 100% with your statement saying that an individualist is someone who has character, and isn't influenced easily by society. I like how you concluded your response with relating self-reliance and individualism.
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Tara Stewart
12/4/2014 09:50:07 am
In my opinion Self Reliance is defined as being independent. You don't care about other peoples opinions. You do what you have to do to make yourself happy. Being independent may be good for some, but sometimes it can bring out bad behavior by their attitude. In the 19th century people cared about their reputation and what others thought of them. For example they didn't do what they wanted to do to make themselves happy. They didn't have unique tattoos or dye their hair different colors. They followed the crowd to fit in. They would rely on each other too much. Todays people are more open about their opinions. We don't care what others think about our choices and who it may affect.
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Justin Sochko
12/5/2014 12:26:33 am
I really agree with what you've said. Being happy in life is ultimantly the total goal in life, so do what makes you happy while you can and live the way you want, as opposed to doing the same as those around you.
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Justin Lenard
12/4/2014 10:39:27 am
Self reliance is reliance on oneself or ones powers or resources. Individualism is the action or principal of asserting ones independence and individuality. (Both definitions found on thefreedicitonary.com). Self reliance was used more in the 19th century than the present day. Back in the 19th century, people had to harvest their own food and build heir own houses. They didn't have other people do it for them, they had themselves to rely on. Also, people from the 19th century independently decided to move west like during westward expansion. They didn't rely on others to carry them westward, they relied on themselves to explore the new world. As for today's society, people get help from others more often than back in the 19th century. People today worry more about fitting in with the crowd and not being as independent. These are two different time frames in history and there have been many changes over the years, but the less self reliant we become, the worst it will get in the future.
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Zac Perry
12/4/2014 11:05:55 am
I agree with you completely. I think that people take for granted that they don't have to harvest their own crops and take care of themselves 100%. I think that individuality is different today and try to fit in and worry about being popular. I agree with you 100%.
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Dylan Garthe
12/4/2014 10:51:41 am
The 1800s were a time of isolantionism. Many people kept to themselves and had a knack for independence. Back then, self-reliance meant that you were independent and that you could fully care for yourself. The definition of self-reliance has since changed. Now it is much more intuitive. You do not need to be completely independent to be individual. You may rely on friends and family for support. During the 1800s, depending on others, to a point, made you less individual.
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Brooklynn Schmanski
12/4/2014 11:02:36 am
The meaning Self-Reliance and Individualism in the nineteenth century is similar, but different than in our lives today. Back then, self-reliance was rare. People depended on eachother for firewood, food, and basic necessities. I believe that the definition of this in the nineteenth century would be someone who can afford their needs, but rely on their neighbors to get them. The definition of self-reliance in the twenty-first century, I believe, is someone who doesnt get help from the government and is able to support their family, or themselves. Today, people are still not independent and depend on the government to survive. What is different from back then to now, is that people actually had to work for their needs. In the world we live in today people just have to sign up, qaulify, and BAM they get free help from the government. Many people receive monthly food stamps and social security checks from the government for bills. There are not many self-reliant people in todays society, but there still are some people who can fend for themselves on their own.
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Nora Krasnic
12/4/2014 08:05:49 pm
I agree, people didnt have enough money to actually be self-reliant with themselves. But most people today are alot less self-reliant, and more about fitting in with the crew.
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Zac Perry
12/4/2014 11:03:04 am
In the 19th century, America was all about individualism. People had to harvest their own crops, make their homes and care for their family. It was basically a free for all in the 1800's. Self Reliance says it perfectly in my opinion. It says that "imitation is suicide". I think he is trying to say that your individuality and character is who you need to be and don't follow the crowd. Today, I believe individuality and self reliance means that you work for you and your family and take no help from anyone else. Entrepreneurship is the ultimate example of self reliance and individuality today. To be individual, you do you and do not follow the group think.
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Lexi Skowronek
12/4/2014 11:26:33 am
I agree with Zac. People both today and in the nineteenth century shouldn't follow the crowd, but rather do what they want. Individualism is all about being independent, not relying on anyone for anything, which is where even the term self-reliance comes into play. Be your own person, not a clone of someone else. Amazing job, Zac.
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Justin Sochko
12/5/2014 12:22:51 am
I agree with Zac in his statement that imitaiton is suicide. Following someone who is successful dose not mean at all that you will have as much success as they have had. You should have your own ideas to follow and work for yourself and your own interests, not those of others just because they have done well.
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Fay
12/9/2014 12:41:21 pm
When you really think of something and get the same answer as the majority,will you just give up your idea in order to be "individual"?
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Jade Harrison
12/4/2014 11:03:53 am
In my opinion, self-reliance is depending on yourself to provide what you want and what you need. Individualism is thinking for youself and not following the crowd. In the 19th century people relied on each other, and did not think for themselves. People relied on the farmers for food, wool, and etc. People did not speek out if they thought different because that would not be the normal. Today's society is very similar, we rely on grocery stores to provide food and banks to provide money, etc. But, we are also self-reliant because people work to provide themselves with money to be able to get the food from stores and provide for their family. Individualism is also rare, but its more common than in the 1800s. People dont stand up to the bully. You will have one person, out of a crowd stand up and speak out. Everyone dresses the same, because thats the popular stores with the cute clothes and what we think is cute or cool is what everyone else thinks is also. We all buy from the popular stores because we dont think for ourselves and we just want to fit in.
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Brooklynn Schmanski
12/4/2014 11:20:32 am
I agree with your statment saying "individualiam" is not following the crowd. I enjoy how you were able to write less but get to the point (unlike me). But you sound idiotic because we don't rely on banks to give us money. You give the bank YOUR money and you can go get it out when you please.
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Nora Krasnic
12/4/2014 08:01:41 pm
I agree, most people relied on themselves in the 19th century. They had things that most could do on their own but chose to have others do it for them. These days people still do that and do what others do instead of being self-reliant or independent of themself.
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Nora Krasnic
12/4/2014 08:07:55 pm
most people didn't rely on themselves in the 19th century.***
Fay
12/9/2014 12:37:34 pm
I think individualism is much more common in today's world.In fact,people even began to show their "individual" thought by saying the opposite of what they really think
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Carter Petty
12/4/2014 11:06:19 am
The terms self-reliance and individualism in 19th century compared to present day defenition could be portrayed much diferently. The definition Self-reliance in present day terms could be ones ability to assure their own financial or economic support, compare this to the less industrialized 19th century the term self-reliance could mean anything from ones survival to ones personal stabilty and from historical text we could know that 19th century agricultrual life was much more complex than the present day lifestyle. In the present day individualism is considered one great achievement for with this came new rational and irrational ideas leading to some of the worlds reatest inventions. But in 19th century termenology individualism could be seen as acts treason or witchcraft some for all these unexpected actions are portrayed, but if it werent for these individualist acts the present day world we've come acustom too could drastically be changed.
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Lexi Skowronek
12/4/2014 11:21:17 am
I agree with Carter. The definition of self-reliant today usually has something to do financially, whereas in the nineteenth century it mainly was just about the idea of survival. Even individualism has changed drastically. People today dye their hair or get tattoos, which would definitely be considered witchcraft since anything from the norm is considered to be with the Devil. Excellent job, Carter.
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Lexi Skowronek
12/4/2014 11:11:34 am
Self-reliance and individualism are two terms that have changed their meaning over the course of time, but are often the same thing. Today, self-reliance is when you do not have to depend on anyone for any thing. Individualism means to be independent and self-reliant. You don't need anyone else but yourself in order to be successful.You are able to fend for yourself and to buy your own things. Kids want to be able to take care of themselves and move out. They want to be able to get a job and their own house where they don't have to take orders from anyone. In the nineteenth century, however, these two terms, self-reliance and individualism, were interpreted differently. People had always worked together, striving as a community rather than just each person themselves. They worked as a unit, which ultimately was like the same thing as the terms of self-reliant and individualism for today. An individual farmer would be able to grow crops and food, but he wouldn't make enough to support his family. He knew he needed the cooperation and assistance of his village with the other farmers to make enough food for his and even other families as well. So although these two terms may have altered slightly over the years, they still have the same intentions, the same purpose. Whether you were self-reliant in the nineteenth centuries or today, you had a plan for yourself and had goals on how to get yourself there.
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zeta barrie
12/4/2014 11:43:11 am
Self reliance and individualism i believe are concepts that haven't changed much throughout the years. If anything, i think among kids individualist has gotten worse. Children will do anything to be like the newest singer or band, they'll dress or look a specific way just to be accepted, and it doeskin matter if they like it or not it just matters if they fit in. I believe the same with self reliance. as many have stated above, back in the 19th century people had to work extremely hard at providing food for their families because everything they ate they produced themselves. We have everything packaged and ready to go in a store, all we have to do is drive there and pick it up. So many of us today would never survive as people if we had to grow our food, and kill our meat, make our own clothes and shelter, money buys all those things. i guess the point is that we all rely on money to help us instead of ourselves. we got lost and depend on others way more than we should.
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Nora Krasnic
12/4/2014 07:58:12 pm
The definition of self-reliance and individualism all together is being able to count on yourself and do your own thing, being independent. Now a days everyone or most people are independent with themselves. By that means, is that some people are doing their own thing and not following what others are doing but rather following through with what they think is right. Others in some way just do as others are doing and most of it is because they are just trying to fit in. These people are not self-reliant. They do not rely on themselves. Back in the 19th century, it was as no one could really be self-reliant. There was things that everyone would of looked at you weirdly or judged you hard for if you did. Each and every individual was independent but did what others were doing, they did it just to fit in and be apart of the crowd. Being self-reliant is having own control of your actions and that is what most people lack nowadays.
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Raquel Jackson
12/4/2014 10:14:49 pm
I believe self-reliance and individualism is believing yourself, relying on yourself. Not following what other people do, being your own person, or even starting a new trend is individualism in my eyes. Slavery is a very big example of this kind of topic. Slaves had to rely on themselves to work and not be beaten or punished. Even if that meant their families wanted to rebel, or not work. Slaves were individual people that had to fight for themselves, rely on themselves. These two topics are sensitive because everyone can view them differently and say different things. But in my eyes these subjects are super important to everyone. We all want to be different in our own ways, not be the same like everyone else. That is my view on individualism and self-reliance.
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Jazmine Weiss
12/4/2014 10:46:17 pm
I believe individualism is doing your own thing but not because everyone else is. Truly bring yourself. Today, I believe it has changed for the worse. We're trying to please others more than ourselves making us weak and unhappy. We care too much of what peers think and we get wrapped up into their likings. Self reliance now is based on how well we can support ourselves. It contains more of a money and political concept. Without money, you seen as unstable and like a child. In the 1900's self reliance and individualism was interpreted differently. Back then, it seemed more like if you could love your family and care for them, you were helpful and stable. Being an individual wasn't too encouraged as it is now. There much pressure to fit in. I think nowadays we have a harder time being actually diverse. Now, everyone is different which makes a conformist type of society. Being the odd one out is now a custom.
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Justin Sochko
12/5/2014 12:18:02 am
I think Self-Reliance and individualism has taken on a whole new meaning within the last 150 years or so. Being self reliant in a more simplier and less advanced time meant you had to do more for yourself if you we're willing to survive. You had to be able to build your own shelter, farm your own land, hunt your own food, everything you had was because of your ability and acceptance to rely on yourself. With more modern times drawing upon us, self-reliance no longer means all of those things done in colonial days. Self-reliance now means being successful enough to provide everything you or your family may need. With technology and modernization now helping us, little by little we as a whole are starting go lose our ability to rely on ones self, and one day no one will be self-reliant. Everything Will be at your finger tips and you won't lone for anything, meaning no one will set goals or try to reach milestones. The world will come to a stand still in that type of society, a society that ultimately will leave mankind unable to embark on new ideas, plans, inventions, studies, and almost anything that could progress the well-being of the world's people. Being self-reliant and an indivigial now should mean you are an innovater. You are different. You can help yourself get ahead in life. You can survive physically and mentally in today's world.
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Kara Gerniski
12/7/2014 02:36:13 am
The terms self reliance and individualism both mean being independent and not relying on others. In the ninetieth century, self reliance and individualism could be viewed as coming together to accomplish something that needs to be done. Throughout the ninetineth century people would rely on others for resources such as food, wool, firewood,etc. In our society today these terms are viewed as following the crowd of people. For example piercings and tattoos are a way people try to fit in. However, in the ninetineth century and in our society today not many people were self reliant.
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Fay
12/9/2014 12:32:27 pm
Self-Reliance and Individualism in 19th century are rebellion to the traditional way of thinking what makes a great man.In the traditional way,a great man should be someone who benefits the society,at least people around him. Traditionally, moralists urged obedience and submission to authority.(from Self-Reliance and Creative Destruction by Bryan Caplan).Then,society has changed,especially in economy ,which led people to think about if it is true that one has to live depending on the society.But obviously,at that time,this guess is not so developed .People did experiment mainly by test if one can live without other’s help .It is physical and naive.
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